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| View Larger Image | Symposium by Plato by Alexander Nehamas, Paul Woodruff
| | List Price: | $8.95 |  | | Available: | Usually ships in 24 hours |  | |  | | Sales Rank: | 60564 | | Studio: | Hackett Pub Co Inc |  | | Binding: | Paperback | | Number Of Pages: | 107 | | Publication Date: | December 31, 1969 | | Publisher: | Hackett Pub Co Inc |
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CUSTOMER REVIEWS (Average Customer Rating: 4.0 based on 5 reviews)
| Plato's Symposium  Plato's Symposium isn't an easy to follow book. There are two sections to it. The first one deals with the lesser arguments on Eros. The second portion deals with the greater argument on Eros, viewing it through a series in initiations rather than through a set pattern.
As I said, it's not an easy text, but a worthwhile one if anyone is interested in understanding the reasoning Plato puts forward in all of his texts. So if you're interested in Plato, get the book. It'll be a great primer. October 03, 2008 | | Probably the best translation out there  Perhaps greatest things about this translation are 1) the Introduction, in which the translators summarize the text and explain why they translated certain ancient Greek words in certain ways; 2) the footnotes, which provide a wealth of historical background information; and 3) the Bibliography at the end, which refers the reader to numerous other books and articles that might help them better understand the text.
Hackett Publishing is the King Midas of Philosophy texts...everything it touches turns to gold. Anything produced by Hackett Publishing is probably the best and most informative translation you are going to find. This Nehamas/Woodruff translation of Plato's Symposium is no different. That being said, I also recommend the similarly structured Nehamas/Woodruff translation of Plato's Phaedrus, which they reference a few times in this version of Symposium.
Symposium is a short read that should take you no longer than 2-3 days to complete. This translation is also very funny when appropriate, as Symposium is supposed to be, which makes it an even easier read. (For example, when Alcibiades enters at the end and exclaims "Good evening, gentlemen! I'm plastered!") But it is also a serious text that explores the very nature of love between both men and women, as well as the Platonic Form of Beauty, from several different points of view. It is one of the most eloquent and literary ancient philosophical texts available, and I highly recommend this translation to anyone looking for a good read on what makes the world go 'round -- love. August 06, 2008 | | Love "Gives Peace To Men And Stillness To The Sea"  I'm giving this book three stars not as a reflection of the authors' introduction or anything like that. I would probably give any version of this dialogue three stars.
For me probably the most interesting part of the book was the description of Socrates as he was serving in the army. He was able to walk around in the cold weather wearing just a light cloak and barefoot and he could survive on limited food better than everyone else.
He was also very brave in battle and the enemy soldiers avoided him realizing he would fight to the death.
Socrates was an unusual person I would say. He would sometimes just stand in one place for many hours without moving as he pondered the meaning of life I guess.
The last chapter is about this younger guy who is trying to seduce Socrates. He talks about how he bursts into tears whenever Socrates speaks, etc.. Finally he crawls under the covers with Socrates but Socrates refuses to give him what he is craving.
You see Socrates doesn't want to exhange his true moral beauty for mere physical gratification.
(This is where I started taking off stars.)
Socrates had saved this guy's life when he got wounded in battle so that may explain some of the strong emotions.
Jeff Marzano
December 30, 2006 | | Plato's famous and influential examination of love  It is rather difficult to review Plato's Symposium from a modern viewpoint. The attempts by Agathon's guests, including Socrates, to define love are largely based on the love of boys rather than women. While that is a difficult concept for me to ponder, I recognize that such a social custom prevailed to some degree in ancient Athens and will attempt to offer an unbiased view of the text. Basically, partygoers celebrating Agathon's first victory in a drama contest decide to do something besides drink themselves into a stupor because they are still paying for such activity the night before. Socrates joins the group on this second night, and it is decided that each man in turn will offer his praises to love. Each of six men offer their interesting, diverse thoughts on the matter, ranging from the conventional to the Socratic ideal. Phaedrus says that the greatest good a boy can have is a gentle lover and that the greatest good a lover can have is a boy to love. He stresses self-sacrifice and virtue as the kind of love the gods love most. Pausanias describes two kinds of love: vulgar love is best explained as love for a woman in the interest of sexual satisfaction; noble love is that concerned with bettering the soul of the object of love (necessarily a young boy). The doctor Eryximachus explains love in terms of harmony, and he goes so far as to credit the vague notion of love with accomplishing all kinds of things in a diverse set of subjects. Aristophanes begins by relating a myth about man's origins. When man was created, individuals were actually attached back to back; the gods later split each human entity in half, and love consists of each person's search for his "missing half" who can be of either sex; even when two mates find one another, their love is imperfect because they cannot become literally attached as they were originally. Agathon says that Love is the youngest of the gods, that he offers the means by which all disputes between the gods and between men are settled, and emphasizes the beauty of love (represented quite well by himself, he seems to say). Socrates, as can be expected, shifts the discussion of love to a higher plane. Claiming to know the art of love if nothing else, Socrates tells how he gained his knowledge from a fictional character called Diotima. He says that love represents the desire to give "birth in beauty," that love is neither a god or a mortal but is instead the messenger between god and man. To love is to want to acquire and possess the good forever and thus attain immortality. Socrates goes on to give a very important speech about one of Plato's perfect Forms--namely, the Form of Beauty. The advanced lover will learn to seek Beauty in its abstract form and will take no more notice of physical beauty; the perfect lover is a philosopher who can create virtue in its true form rather than produce mere images of virtue. This short summary in no way does justice to Socrates' speech, but it gives the general idea. After Socrates speaks, a drunken Alcibiades (Socrates' own beloved) crashes the party and commences to give a speech about Socrates, the effect of which is to identify Socrates as a lover who deceives others into loving him. As both lover and beloved, Socrates is seemingly held up by Plato as the true embodiment of love. To truly love is to be a philosopher. I myself don't hold this text in as high regard as many intellectuals, but there can be no doubt of this dialogue's influence on Western thought over the centuries. The book succeeds in the presentation of advanced philosophical ideas and as literature. The discussion of the Form of Beauty is particularly useful in terms of understanding Platonic thought. It would seem that this dinner party and the speeches we read are very likely fictitious and represent Plato's thoughts much more closely than Socrates' own views, but it is impossible to tell to what extent this is true. The Symposium is inarguably one of Plato's most influential, most important texts and is required reading for anyone seriously interested in philosophy as it has existed and continues to exist in Western society. July 26, 2002 | | A version which lets the masterpiece speak for itself  I bought this textbook for my Classical Philosophy class (which was taught by William Placher - check his books out, they're awesome), and the Symposium really got me thinking about what love really is. What's cool about the work is that while each of the speeches make some great points, in the end they never really decide on a final answer, so it's still your call.I liked the Symposium so much, that I decided to buy it as a gift for my friend. It was then that I realized how superior the Woodruff version is - other versions I found in bookstores featured commentary that was sometimes more than twice as long as the actual work! In this version, on the other hand, the introduction is short but informative - therefore you're not paying extra to hear some other guy give his two cents on Plato's work, when Plato's words themselves are really all you're interested in. March 19, 2001 | |
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